bananabrain
awkward squadnik
how about the side of him that i mentioned?I see what you mean. I've only heard Philips on Huda tv and this side of him doesn't come out there.
b'shalom
bananabrain
how about the side of him that i mentioned?I see what you mean. I've only heard Philips on Huda tv and this side of him doesn't come out there.
Bridge-building mostly ... I have Catholic friends who are into ecumenical discussion. Also for my own education.so you want to study them or have a discussion with them
how about the side of him that i mentioned?
"My Muslim intellectual, My Muslim intellectual for a horse . . . "
"Arabic Numerals" are actually Sanskrit Numerals from India.
Did you know that the so-called "Arabic Numerals" are NOT used by Arabs?
Did you know that the "Arabic" language is written & read right-to-left?
But did you know that the "Arabic" numerals as used today are written & read LEFT-to-RIGHT?
getting oriented,
Bhaktajan
Perhaps pedophilia and wife-beating are two of those "positive" aspects of Islam that the West needs to adopt, according to his proponents.
how about the side of him that i mentioned?
b'shalom
bananabrain
Literally, huh?Eaton's book literally gave me an electric shock when I first read him.
sorry to hear it - keep on trying!Didn't get the job I wanted ... bum!!
hmmm - doesn't sound like the religious reasons you generally give when rationalising your decision to wear it...don't wear niqab in England, I wear it in Egypt because I look very different so I attract a lot of natural curiosity and attention and women in niqab are largely ignored there
uncontroversial from my point of view - but it should be based on the evidence, not on some form of right for religious parents to avoid education in basic things like biology.for example the education of girls and boys seperately ... there was something on Radio 4 a few days ago I listened to about a debate at the moment of whether girls and boys should take different exams .. so it's still a relevent subject here as well as elsewhere.
so women are still only worth half as much as men when it comes to business contracts? you don't think *that's* a problem? i suspect that muhammad's first wife would not have approved - wasn't she a pretty serious businesswoman?He also points out very clearly that the requirement for 2 female witnesses to 1 male witness is regarding business contracts ... something many scholars fail to point out - usually being followed with the "women are deficient" stuff - so he gets a brownie point for that one.
you find it "a little strange"? seeing as he hates jews, i don't find it at all strange that he singles us out.I find it a little strange that he goes right for Jews in Medinah and has missed the Quranic verse which states that apostacy began in Mecca before the hijrah
and there isn't some way for your husband to rescind this right? we figured this one out in the C13th, with the ban of rabbenu gershom on polygamy - also, we're enjoined to observe the "law of the land". i can see your workaround makes sense, however and i am, after all, a pragmatist, you seem to retain sufficient leverage.I tried to have this put into my marriage contract but it was not allowable legally because a man is allowed to marry 4 wives and I can't take that right away from him
to put it mildly. but then again, he is trying to turn the clock back to the middle ages in most respects.All in all I feel he is encouraging a practice that most Muslim countries have moved on from....He uses a translation of the Quran which in this verse says "men are the protectors of women because Allah favoured them over women". That speaks volumes and may explain a few things.
this is not how we see it at all - in no case can the "entitlement" be enforced (in the Torah the word used implies coercion by any means whatsoever).The issue of rape in an Islamic marriage is rather a difficult one. In my understanding the Arabic word for rape is to take something you are not legally entitled to (covers all sorts of things but rape is included because you are illegally taking a womans body/virtue/modesty). As a man is legally entitled to have sex with his wife he cannot be charged with illegally taking something he is not entitled to, as clearly he is entitled to have sex with his wife.
well, i'm glad i've done some good in this case; it's a shame that not everyone is as rigorous in their thought processes.So he is off my 'listen to' list and I shall not be suggesting anyone else listens to him.
hmmm - doesn't sound like the religious reasons you generally give when rationalising your decision to wear it...
uncontroversial from my point of view - but it should be based on the evidence, not on some form of right for religious parents to avoid education in basic things like biology.My point was simply that it is something we are still looking at. I went to a number of boarding schools, some all girls and some mixed and in my experience it was much better for my education in an all girls school, it was simply easier to concentrate and I found in some subjects the girls were held back by the boys. Biology is a great example, in an all girls school we just got on with it but in mixed schools there was a lot of giggling and blushing ... whether the biology teacher was male or female also made a difference.
If it turns out through studies that seperate classes are the best way to educate I hardly think we can look at conservative religious groups and say they are wrong simply because they didn't do studies.
so women are still only worth half as much as men when it comes to business contracts? you don't think *that's* a problem? i suspect that muhammad's first wife would not have approved - wasn't she a pretty serious businesswoman?
No I don't think it's a problem. If you read the subject it refers to women's memory of the contract if they need to go to court to give evidence. As a majority of Muslim women are housewives and mothers, not businesswomen, they are unlikely to remember all the details of the contract in the same way men, or indeed businesswomen, would remember it. I think the Prophet's first wife would be just as aware of this general situation and the need to protect the larger society and not a minority of educated working women.
and there isn't some way for your husband to rescind this right? we figured this one out in the C13th, with the ban of rabbenu gershom on polygamy - also, we're enjoined to observe the "law of the land". i can see your workaround makes sense, however and i am, after all, a pragmatist, you seem to retain sufficient leverage.
We also have to observe the law of the land so hubby knows in UK he has no right to practice polygamy. Egypt is a different matter and they are unwilling to pass a law which contravenes a right Allah (swt) has granted. That said it 's estimated that less than 4% of Egyptians live in polygamous marriages and the number goes down each year. Hubby can allow me in our marriage contract to divorce myself but I asked him not to include it, since I am aware of how short tempered and hot headed I am
this is not how we see it at all - in no case can the "entitlement" be enforced (in the Torah the word used implies coercion by any means whatsoever).
It's not really a subject I know enough about to comment properly, as such a thing would never enter hubby's head. I did ask him about it when I first heard someone talking about it and hubby explained rape in a marriage would have to involve so many sins against the Quran and Sunnah, that a man would have to be in essence a rapist to even attempt to rape his wife.
Neither husband or wife can deny themselves sexually to the other (unless ill or for psychological reasons) but you have to look at the big picture to understand this doesn't mean one spouse can force the other pysically.
"And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that you may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect." (al-Rum 30:21)
I'll do some studying of the subject and report back my findings.