Erynn said:
What I can tell you is that they were extremely powerful experiences, that in one case condoms were involved, and that the condoms made absolutely no difference in the workings or the quality of the experience. In both cases, they were far more about the experience of deity than anything having to do with exchange of fluids -- which was, in fact, irrelevant. So, in my experience (admittedly quite limited), condoms have made no difference. I have worked with bodily fluids for other purposes on many occasions, but it was not in any way intended as sex magic, simply as a source of power for various workings.
I suppose that my attitude is greatly influenced by the fact that some of the deities I work with and worship are known or assumed to have same-sex interactions as well as opposite-sex interactions. Some are shapeshifters, for whom gender and shape are irrelevant
You have found what is true and right for you. This doesn't mean that it is, by its nature, true and right universally.
Unless 1 + 1 does not equal 2, then there is only one reality. The very popular theory that everyone has his or her own truth is just a justification for self-idolatry. Searching for the truth takes enormous sacrifice (Christ Will, the negative, or the Holy Denial), enormous effort (The Positive, the affirmation), and enormous comprehension (Holy Reconciliation).
Please know that what I am stating on these forums is the exact knowledge kept secretly within every Occult Society and Esoteric Fraternity (before they became distinguished social clubs). To affirm this fact I will be quoting some passages from Dion Fortune's
The Esoteric Philosophy of Love and Marriage. (Dion Fortune was an initiate of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn).
Before throwing this argument into another Hegelian black hole, I want to tell you that in no way do I doubt the validity of your experiences. The truth is, what works for me will work for everyone, and what works for you will also work for everyone. I am already very aware of how all sexual magic works, not just the specific method I am prescribing. I am not speaking about what works, because I have already stated that all sexual function is magical (it is the very definition of magic), I wish to speak about the causes and effects of its use. What works is not simply "what feels right." What works is not simply "paranormal experience." Drugs “work.” It makes people happy, and some drug users are actually very productive members of society (my past self, for example). Drugs also open us up to clairvoyance, all sorts of visions, but it is not good to use drugs to do this, because it will damage the psyche. All of these things happened to me, but it was not for good. Furthermore, and for these reasons, I absolutely understand why you do not believe a single thing I say, and in fact, find me to be abhorrent.
Sex magic with the use of drugs is a very dangerous combination. This is what L. Ron Hubbard refereed to as "soul cracking," and he is quite right.
About nature:
I agree that the term "natural" is ambiguous. Let us define it. Nature is within Time, and, Time is a circle that repeats itself (days, weeks, months, years, circling around a star...). Nature begins simple, and, through evolution, it convolutes itself. It forms a more complicated and more mechanical versions of itself. At some point, the machine breaks, society falls apart and some new society takes over who is on an upswing of evolution.
When I say natural, I mean the state of nature before it was convoluted and beginning its down swing of destabilization.
It is true that every society, religion, etc., has had its beginning, middle and end. The sexual "freedom" expressed today is nothing new, it existed within the ends of times of every society that ever fell. These are just the facts. We know that Christianity is becoming a dead religion for the same reasons that Paganism, the Aztecs, the Roman Gods, etc., became a dead religion. The Priests have become Jesters, the butts of jokes, all sexually related, just as they were when the orgies in Rome were laughing at the Holy Men outside the Temples of the Gods.
All the same Gods and Goddesses of Paganism are the Angels and Cerebrum, Thrones, etc., of Christianity. To venerate one and not the other is incredulous. Sectarianism is due to misunderstandings and pride.
The human soul also evolves, it also becomes more convoluted. This is actually a bad thing because the Great Reality is not convolution, but rather the supreme simplicity. The innocent men and women represented by Adam and Eve have become the arrogant, lustful, proud, angry, violent, ignorant people of today. This is what evolution has brought us.
Likewise, no soul is created as they are born into bodies today. We have very old souls today, millions of years old, whose nature is now what their previous lives have conditioned them to desire. Nothing can happen without a cause. No birth de-effect is without its cause within a previous life. Every social situation and desire that one is born into has direct correspondence with causes that person set up in the previous life/lives.
I do not doubt the desire that every heterosexual and every homosexual is born into today exclusively runs their entire lives. Today, heterosexuals desire another heterosexual, homosexuals desire another homosexual. We need to die to Desire and be born to the Will. The type of sexual magic I am talking of will radically alter the consciousness. Then we will know the difference between love and desire.
The super-natural has many things within it. Demons and Angels are real, however you wish to call them. They are both beings with awakened consciousness. One has the awakening of consciousness in its freedom, the other in its conquest (desire). One is the Kundalini Fire serpent, the Bronze Serpent of Moses, the Nagas or Water Serpent, the Quetzalcoatl Feathered Serpent, the Staff of Mercury; the other is Satan's Tale, the Witch's Broom, the Kundabuffer, the Serpent that Apollo wounds, the Serpents of Medusa, the Egyptian Serpent that Moses' Serpent eats, etc., etc., etc. It is very, very, very, very easy to contact and to be a medium for a Demoniac Intelligence in comparison to converse and be taught by an angelic one. Both will talk about love and wisdom and dress in a tunic of sanctity. But do not be fooled by tricks of the mind. One wishes to enslave you and the other wishes to set you free.
I tend to think of lifelong monogamy as unnatural and really rather abhorrent, personally. That doesn't mean I'll condem people who want that for choosing that option, nor do I think they're going to suffer some kind of eternal tormet for making that choice. It really is just one more way to have a human relationship.
