Is there a true Church in this world today?

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  1. donnann

    donnann Active Member

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    What about genesis and human being cast out of the garden? I believe this refers to the separation or loss of the oneness of soul and body. The creation account really refers to the creation and process of this state of being. The mystery was that the woman doesnt refer to the female but to the body which is why the church or body is also referred to as a woman.The man refers to the soul not the male. The male and female were two that we ALSO one so that each half has a three fold consiousness making up one being. I also believe the child in the solomon story and the two mothers refers to this original state. The fact they mention cutting the child in half and the TRUE mother rather give up the child
     
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    continued from last post: the true mother would rather give up the child than have it cut in half knowing the child would die. Human beings are half of themselves walking around searching for their other half. As I said before though I believe each half is connected in some way to its other half. All living beings were originally that way. So I do believe just like we are all alive that our individual bodies can be raised up immortal but even then still halfs of the whole. I agree that gods spirit is love and the holy spirit fire is this light. Since everyone is contained within what I call the creators codes the creator can take the part or combination of codes and breath that into your body to open up the union of body soul and spirit.
     
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    This is the power of JESUS
     
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    Gatekeeper Shades of Reason

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    I think we all have the capacity to love, but being cast out of the garden represents mankind's desire for the forbidden, our desire for evil. Love is our life force, we weren't cast out of the garden by God per se, but rather we cast ourselves out. Mankind made a choice; Mankind could either serve in paradise or rule in hell. Mankind chose to rule .......


    It is written that man chose the knowledge of evil over our "tree of life"; it might be better said that we chose the lust of our flesh over the Spirit of our God. I think that mankind chose to rule as opposed to being caretakers. I think mankind began to force their will on other beings, thus Eden was lost.


    We lost our paradise because mankind turned away from our life force (Love) and chose evil instead. It has nothing to do with the literal flesh, or being separated from God, but rather its about our turning away from life and love, choosing instead to rule, which resulted in knowing evil.


    "Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever--"


    But I digress as we are rapidly moving away from the topic of the original post .......


    ~GK~
     
  5. IowaGuy

    IowaGuy Hunter-Gatherer

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    Sounds like you have a well-grounded belief system. I agree Jesus has some great teachings. Although I don't call myself a Christian I try to incorporate many of his teachings into my daily life...
     
  6. donnann

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    I dont find is complicated, however when you get into scientific explanations of it then it can be complicated.
     
  7. donnann

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    God is within us and all around us Split a piece of wood and you will find me move a stone and there I will be. Wood refers to the union of body soul and spirit by power of the holy spirit and the stone represents the body that is resurrected when moved. The wood represents love the removal of the stone compassion.
     
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    The wood represents the true meaning of the ancient symbol the cross and not the opposing practice of misusing it. Do you know why they placed nails in jesus at certain points on his body? There are points, charkras and such that are union points for the union of body soul and spirit. They placed the nails at these points to destroy or kill him and prevent him from rising from the dead. Apparently it didnt work. Its a satanic practice that is opposite from the true meaning of the cross. In history many evil men like hitler have taken holy symbols and tried to do the opposite practice.
     
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    When resurrection occurs jesus raises his hands up because the vertical piece the cross represents the body and he has the power to do that. Then the body(IN END TIME) is sealed back down to the next seal opening.
     
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    The cross is a little more complicated. The holy spirit like lightening causes the body to spread out , reform and then in end time sealed back down again,this happened before resurrection , each event is a seal opening and binding.
     
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    Hey I am just posting this to see if anyone can figure out what I am talking about this. Picture this. A woman who is divine but also human like in the movie the fifth element , walking around literally dead like the woman in the movie is the light comes down like the dove sign like lightening and a process takes place that has to do with the divine body but also human stuff as well but as far as human reality the woman has no identity because she is from divine. She dives down into the cab like in the movie sealed back down but to a man in the movie he says shes not my bride shes my fair. This is kinda a riddle can anyone figure out my point?
     
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    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    He is the Lord, She the Lady.

    Radarmark
     
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    bride and bridegroom
     
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    Heres another one: A guy has a yellow candle, he lights it and something happens to a female kinda like the reconstruction thing of the body in the 5th element but a holy event, but the candle that he lit prior to this is literally a representation of the female. Who or what is she?

    I know I am using a movie but its the best visual example I can give.
     
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    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    She is the Queen of the SabbaT.
     
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    A divine being who incarnated into the human body.
     
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    simular to the female in the movie but of course by holy means not machines.
     
  18. Servetus

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    It is nice to meet you, Thomas.

    The logic is certainly appealing, but, in my experience, that is difficult to do. When historically reviewed, Christianity itself, especially in its early stages, seems to have continuously morphed. As I read that history, no doubt imperfectly, beneath every Christian “orthodoxy” lies a sort of proto-orthodoxy. Thus, to find the "true" church in history can be in some ways as daunting a prospect as finding it in the present.
     
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    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Servetus, think you have it. The longest continually functioning gruops are: Mandaens (Curch of John the Baptist), Armenian, and Ethiopean. I do not believe any of them ahave anywhere near the beliefs Thomas and other christians on this discussion have.

    Catholics, Orthodox, and others did not really coalese until quite later.
     
  20. wil

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    I have an Ethiopian friend at our church...she prides herself in being raised in one of the oldest versions of Christianity....

    Like all I suppose.

    I've got to reconnect with the driver from Arizona, his family is in a Christian denomination that still speaks Aramaic.

    Now Thomas none of us are surprised that the denomination that claims apostolic succession is believes that the church with apostolic succession is the only one and true church....we've actually heard it most of our lives.
     

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