Final Warning Given Unto Mankind, Tribulation Is Near and Soon Cometh.

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  1. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    Oh, my! Now, the pint is that I believe you are!
     
  2. OneTrueGod

    OneTrueGod Interfaith Forums

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    My final word to you is to repent.


    Go read Isaiah 5 and Isaiah 24.
     
  3. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    What do I really have to repent for? Can you name a single inequity or unjust action I have perpetrated? A commandment I broke?

    It is thou who calls evil good (bigotry) and good evil (inclusivism) who puts darkness (hatred) for light and light (the beauty of the world around us) for darkness, the bitterness of uninformed judgments for the sweetness of love.

    And as for Isaiah 24, seems more applicable to thou than I.
     
  4. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I don't believe I ever pent before, so repenting is a tough thing to imagine.

    I sit in the lap with my head at the bosum of mother G!d....we's on cuddlin up for nap terms and got no isssues wotsoever
     
  5. powessy

    powessy Well-Known Member

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    Hello donnann
    I spent three years in the 82nd airborne field artillery, my dog tags specify "NONE" under religion. I spent 8 months in desert storm and dug many a fox hole but not once did I seek your gods presence, Even when we crossed that line in the sand and executed fire missions a god never enter into my mind or thoughts. I have been an atheist my whole life and I have never felt a presence of a higher power.

    I have had thousands of out of body experiences and astral journeys through out my life, I have dealt in the dark and the light but still nothing has given me any reason to believe in a higher power. I believe in an after life or the freedom of this skin suit and I believe in her your earth soul object(Gaia) she is the reason for all the things you feel and see.

    I recently went through a spiritual awakening where my soul ascended within me during the beginning of October, I watched as a force came up behind me and filled my veins with light to prepare my body for Powessy.
    I still do not believe in a one higher power or creator.

    So before you start making assumptions about something you clearly know nothing about due to your blind thoughts and religious views stop and think you just might be wrong.

    I would just like to add that I respect those that are willing to look at all sides, many of the responders to this thread have at least kept an open mind to those things that lie beyond there scope of understanding.
     
  6. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    welcome to IO powessy...
     
  7. powessy

    powessy Well-Known Member

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    OneTrueGod

    Hello I am interested in a few things you have mentioned here regarding the sun Sol. I have recently gone through a spiritual awakening of sorts. During my life I have had thousands of out of body experiences that allowed me to travel behind the veil. I have witnessed many things and have recently started to put all these things together. The sun does play a huge part in these experiences along with astral projections the dreams of souls. I also believe that we are on the precipice of a new era but I am unsure of the effects this will have on the physical world. The underworlds have already started to spill outward and has been this way since November 1st. I can feel them around me all the time. I am very sensitive to this area the veil, so trust me when I say this is so. Read through different sites on obes and you will see that many of the people experiencing this are being attacked this is normal usually as a person starts experiencing this but lately it is very bad more so then I have ever seen it.

    I am mostly interested in your ideas regarding the frequencies emitted by the sun. I believe as we move between the 11 year cycle and yearly solar passage the frequencies change constantly opening different paths through the veil. I believe that each person has there own frequency that they emit creating different environments. When the human frequency matches the solar frequency then a clearer path is aligned.

    So here is my question is it possible that when this shift occurs only those with the specified frequency or vibration will move forward in the upcoming shift?

    There are many who say the things you have been saying and say they are the one true god during this same time period( the deception from the other side, perhaps) is it possible you are being deceived by this presence. Please keep an open mind there is much to the bible that has not been spoken but hid by those who wish to remain in control.
     
  8. donnann

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    This skin suit is suppose to be a part of your whole being. Its like the skin for the soul and spirit. What do you think about intelligent design?
     
  9. powessy

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    hello donnann

    I think it is the same question only without the word god. Why is it so hard to believe there is no god? Why is god necessary for people to feel they have a purpose? I think the reason we are here is because we were the strongest. Look to nature and you will see no weak links other then the stress man has put on it? The biggest problem with people is they do not see the billions of years it took to create the system that lies just in front of them or how many times it took for evolution to get it right.

    After you have spent 80 years or so on earth were do you think your soul goes to a palace of gold and silver? Does it remain in this palace forever and ever? I don't know my grand parents very well and me and my parents were not that close, I choose to not have many friends do I spend eternity with them, what do we talk about or have to share? Is there discussions or is everyone rite all the time? If this is heaven then I would rather not go, it sounds really bad to me.

    My body is of earth and when I die it will once again belong to the earth, this suit is a temporary aging mask we wear. I believe the soul can be reborn at which time we will dawn a new suit. I also believe that our time in the after is limited and our soul must be re-energized through the energies we receive here on earth, so rebirth is inevitable.
     
  10. Ahanu

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    I think a self-created universe with minds is more miraculous than any miracle recorded in all the religions of the world. A universe with minds that have beliefs, intentions, and aims must necessarily have a Mind with beliefs, intentions, and aims. Why is it so hard to believe there is a God?
     
  11. powessy

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    hello Ahanu

    I then have to ask, if that reality that you hold is so appealing, then why does it not apply to this reality? Is this a break from oneness? or a test to see if we can be one with the collective of minds. Who decides the beliefs and intentions of this mind, is their a hierarchy involved? Have you looked into space, we live on a little rock the size of a piece of sand within an ocean of sand, and this is the best we could do, how sad is that. All a person has to do is look around and see that everything is supported by everything else, there are no special supports from a higher domain or mind acting on these environmental structures. Man continues to destroy these supports where is the mind as this happens, can I speak to it I have a lot to say and being part of it is not on the top of my list.

    To believe in a god is to say, that I have no purpose other then to breed have kids be good and die then live in a place of gold streets and reside with my family for how long exactly?, or is my purpose to be born, praise him for this gift, live a life of unknowing constantly questioning the godly design? or will I float into this big brain structure and lose my individualism? Why would this mind allow so much deception if it was so powerful it could create universes.

    People are scared when they look to the darkness that lies beyond life to the point that they have created gods and belief systems to help them cope with this issue.
     
  12. donnann

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    God and the gods exist. Why is it so hard to realize this. You would never lose individualism. God and his female counterpart always existed. They created the GODS which are archangels and their female counterparts. Then they created this universe as a mirror image of the heavenly universe.
     
  13. powessy

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    donnann

    Then this is my question to you, what is the purpose of all this then? and why am I asking this question? Are we mere sheep prancing around for their entertainment. I think if you knew you would not need to come here to defend a belief you hold so complete. The universe is not a friendly place why would they want to emulate or duplicate that, I could imagine a much greater place and yet I am a simple man. The answers are in front of you, just use reason. I am an atheist but I have undergone an enlightenment why would they see me as a worthy enough soul then. During my life I have broke all of the commandments, I have suffered great losses and hardships but this has never buckled my soul. I have forgiven myself and released the anger in my heart, I have emptied my cup of deception and I am now trying to fill it with truth. Don't keep avoiding the questions with, because some one told me so, look outside the box and use logic to reason.

    I don't have all the answers but I have a few of the pieces needed to hopefully put this puzzle together and none of the pieces ends with me kneeling in front of anyone or being judged by anyone.
     
  14. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    How about an uncreated universe? What makes you think that there is a universe and that some 'beyond-the-nature' being created it? What I see is an ocean of energy. You and me are all part of it, all the living things and the non-living. This energy (atoms, which are just forms of energy) creates our brain, gives us mind, and as per its training/evolution mind perceives the existence in various forms, humans, animals, vegetation, and non-living things; though what exists is universal, just a sea of energy. That is, in Hinduism, known as 'maya', illusion. Mind creating things which are not there, and not seeing what actually is there. God/Gods/Goddesses are not essential for us to wrongly perceive a universe and participate in it. (Perhaps the idea is not presented well, but do catch the wind?)
     
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    I have read of many others that also believe in this energy in everything philosophy, it is an interesting concept. I think the reason I don't buy into this interpretation is due to my "MAYA" or my inability to let go of the science mind. I am unsure I like the word 'maya' as it is described in the context you have used it in, because to me this suggest that all things are illusion except for an acceptable interpretation by the none observer. I am not verse in the Hindu religion as you so I may not be understanding this correctly please take no offense. I do not believe in in a one divine god, I believe things are as they are due to the laws which govern them and have no special cords directing there path.
     
  16. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    What is a none observer? Of course, we make observations and arrive at conclusions. But it requires some efforts to erase our biases and arrive at the right conclusion. I too do not believe in one or many divine Gods or Goddesses, I am a strong atheist 'advaitist' (believer in non-duality) Hindu. I believe only in 'physical energy' as the sole constituent of all things in the universe, forming the universe under four fundamental forces and gravity (add more forces if these five are not all). Don't take me for a mystic.
     
  17. Ahanu

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    The "ocean of energy" you propose doesn't have Mind. I think it is impossible for this eternal ocean of energy to exist--unless an eternal Mind exists. Why? It is impossible for a subset (humans) to possess a quality a superset (nature) is deprived of. However, you say it is possible:
    "What I see is an ocean of energy. You and me are all part of it, all the living things and the non-living. This energy (atoms, which are just forms of energy) creates our brain, gives us mind, and as per its training/evolution mind perceives the existence in various forms, humans, animals, vegetation, and non-living things . . ."
    This ocean of energy brings the God I belive in--a perfect being--into the creation, where we witness imperfections on a daily basis.

    Powessy told donnan:
    "So before you start making assumptions about something you clearly know nothing about due to your blind thoughts and religious views stop and think you just might be wrong."​
    In the above quote powessy shows us he believes people can have different degrees of knowledge. He says there is something donnann "clearly knows nothing about." He believes donnann lacks some knowledge about a topic, or we can even say he believes donnann is ignorant about a topic (donnan's comment being "there are no atheists in a foxhole"). Since degrees of knowledge exist, a supreme degree of knowledge must also exist. This is undeniable.​
    "Therefore, it becomes evident that there is an Eternal Almighty One, Who is the possessor of all perfections, because unless He possessed all perfections He would be like His creation."​
    -Abdu'l-Baha​
    Even the non-living things, vegetation, animals, and humans that Aupmanyav said an ocean of energy created reveal various degrees of being and other qualities in creation. The existence of lesser degrees proves an absolute existence: God. ​
     
  18. powessy

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    Ahanu

    If I present a test to a thousand people, the test result's should form the standard bell curve. The test will show that the participants knowledge of the test will range from not good, to average, to getting them all correct. So by your logic then, the one that scored the highest would be god, is this your thinking. A civilization that had billions of more years to advance then us, does this make them god because they hold more of the answers, no I don't think so. You can make a god out of what ever makes you feel better, but to me the universe is as it must be and anyone stating that they are god, they are not what they should be.
     
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    Aupmanyav

    What I meant to type is "Non-observer" an oversight on my behalf.
    What I mean by this is "religion A" who is aware of the teachings of "religion B" but has not practiced or lived "religion B" concepts, can say that you only see illusion because you are not seeing "religion A" concepts clearly, and vice versa. The observer is someone that has spent there whole life practicing their religion and the non-observer is only aware of the basic principals of the other religion.

    In short this Maya could be used toward any group or religion that is not inline with or seeing what the other group see's. I just wonder if we are all looking at snakes sometimes.
     
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    No, because just as you and I acquire more perfections, the advanced civilization acquires more perfections too. Perfections are endless. In my view a civilization can't just sublime (to use Iain Banks' science fiction term), evaporating into an absolute condition of perfection since God alone is absolute perfection and separate from creation. If they could, that would make them independent of God. We would then have two Gods! When you look at a ruby, a rose, or a nightingale, you can always imagine something better within each kingdom of existence. Since this advanced civ has the power of reason, I could classify it into the human kingdom. This advanced civ, according to my view, can imagine something better than themselves, but they can never know what absolute perfection is like. In my view perfections are endless and the creation is endless too, for the Creator is absolute perfection, eternal, and immutable.

    No, because one can always imagine a harder test of knowledge. The participant that scores the highest doesn't reveal absolute knowledge since the test can't test absolute knowledge.
     

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