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Am tempted to ask what form this would take?civil war could likely erupt.
Am tempted to ask what form this would take?civil war could likely erupt.
I see. OK then. Let me change tack from my usual discussions on early Christianity..
Germany officially recognises colonial-era Namibia genocide
The Arab slave trade was most active in West Asia, North Africa, and Southeast Africa. The Ottoman slave trade exploited the human resources of eastern and central Europe and the Caucasus; the Barbary Coast slave traders raided the Mediterranean coasts of Europe and as far afield as the British Isles and Iceland. In the early 20th century (post-World War I), authorities gradually outlawed and suppressed slavery in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.[17]Slavery in the Ottoman Empire was abolished in 1924 when the new Turkish Constitution disbanded the Imperial Harem and made the last concubines and eunuchs free citizens of the newly proclaimed republic.[18]Slavery in Iran was abolished in 1929. Mauritania became the last state to abolish slavery - in 1905, 1981, and again in August 2007. Oman abolished slavery in 1970, and Saudi Arabia and Yemen abolished slavery in 1962 under pressure from Britain.[19] However, slavery claiming the sanction of Islam is documented at present in the predominantly Islamic countries of the Sahel,[20][21] and is also practiced in territories controlled by Islamist rebel groups. It is also practiced in countries like Libya and Mauritania - despite being outlawed. (emphasis mine, -jt3)
Does it matter?Am tempted to ask what form this would take?
Are you also willing to discuss?:
ref: History of slavery in the Muslim world - Wikipedia
Seems to me Islamic states were and are the last to give up slavery. Slavery....still going on....in Africa!...with the blessing of Islam.
I don't know that much about it.
I DO know that the Qur'an encourages people to set slaves free.
I DO know that zakat is compulsory, and can be used to set slaves free.
I hear you on the self-discipline, and I do believe through a lot of study and soul-searching, that some common teachings in modern Christianity (All you've got to do is BELIEVE!) are not founded in scripture. Some I can guess the source, others are a bit more vague, but such misinformation falls on the heads of the teachers / leaders / pastors / priests. Those that teach error and lead folks to hell have a severe price to pay in the afterlife. "For many will call out, Lord! Lord!, have we not worked miracles in your name? And (I) will say to them, get thee hence, (I) never knew ye." And that is why I trust my soul to no Earthly person, I pursue my studies solo. I lead myself, and right or wrong I will answer for myself.Do I think that Muslims are somehow incapable of wronging other people? No, I don't.
I DO know that Islam is a great blessing and can enable the poor to be lifted out of a spiral of despair.
Can Christianity do that? Not in the same way, I don't think. Islam is strict. It is about self-discipline.
Harsh environments and circumstances are not easy to overcome.
During the pandemic our gummint thought it would be a good idea to give unemployed folks "a little extra," which ended up making their unemployment benefits greater than my paycheck, that I have to show up for. What inducement was there to return to work when companies began opening back up? None, so they sit on the couch, smoke pot and drink beer all day and get paid for it. Now the inducement is being eliminated (in some states like mine) and the mandatory work seeking requirements are being reinstated - and companies all around are BEGGING for help - and so grudgingly these folks are filtering back into the workforce. The unemployment situation was artificially induced BY OUR GUMMINT!Long term unemployment has become endemic in many societies throughout the world.
It can completely destroy lives. We know that. US suffers from similar problems, which exacerbates the relationship
between black and white people, for example.
In reality, it is not about color of skin and historical slavery. It is about a financial system that continually divides us.
And that is awesome! I agree, anything worth having is not easy, and that includes thoughtful discussion. In some ways perhaps Christianity is for the lazy, the uneducated, those who just want to show up and socialize, but there are many, many Christians that find great value in the faith, and Christianity does have its deep thinkers that are fully capable of mining gems of great price from its tenets. It does take effort though, and not all Christians are up to the task.I dread to think what would have happened to me if Almighty God had not lifted me up and enlightened me.
Has it been an easy path to tread? Absolutely not. Anything worth having is not easy.
During the pandemic our gummint thought it would be a good idea to give unemployed folks "a little extra," which ended up making their unemployment benefits greater than my paycheck, that I have to show up for. What inducement was there to return to work when companies began opening back up? None, so they sit on the coach, smoke pot and drink beer all day and get paid for it..
Prior to the pandemic, with the economy humming under Trump (like him or not, the fact is he built up the economy) unemployment for ALL sectors was at all time lows since records started being kept..
..there are many, many Christians that find great value in the faith, and Christianity does have its deep thinkers that are fully capable of mining gems of great price from its tenets..
address the root cause. i.e. usury
You mean like the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergs, the International Monetary Fund, George Soros, et al?
Absolutely. Who do you think is fomenting raw livic? They look to mop up in the aftermath and subjugate everyone under their control. We're basically already there, it is just the formality...
subjugate everyone under their control. We're basically already there, it is just the formality...
These days, it is pure manipulation by those globally in control. Oh dear! What a web we weave
We can post pictures of our dinners, post jokes about our political leaders, rant.across.the oceans about movie selections and stop a pandemic thru a.modecum of cooperation and ton of 21st century know it all....
And of course for all these blessings and more we.should give thanks to the Rockefellers, the Bilderbergs, the International Monetary Fund, George Soros, and the London locksmiths..
It's not the weather, we know that, lol
It is modern slavery. It is indentured servitude.Usury is evil.
The English have always been very kind and helpful towards me, at every turn. Unless I acted entitled. They have zero sympathy for that. I only ever asked the world the right to earn my own living.
Screw that thought....she is human! The fact.that she is someone daughter sister or mom should have zero to do with how you treat a fellow human!it causes enmity and hatred. Remember, a woman who is taken advantage of, is somebody's daughter.
Would you like to explain how the system prefers to support citizens on social security than to have a working population generating GDP for the state as a whole? Inflation results from printing money against inadequate reserves -- such as for covid contingency, perhaps. The stronger the GDP the less the need to inflate currency.The system depends on unemployment to keep inflation in check.
The fact.that she is someone daughter sister or mom should have zero to do with how you treat a fellow human!
Would you like to explain how the system prefers to support citizens on social security than to have a working population generating GDP for the state as a whole? Inflation results from printing money against inadequate reserves -- such as for vivid contingency, perhaps. Inflation/employment in England Vs in Zimbabwe? Truth is, it's just harder for politicians to cheat and get away with it in 'civilized western' states, imo