Save Our Souls
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You both are right. Mk 14:35-36 (par. Lk,Mt):He accepted His mission. Where do you get this stuff from?
And going a little farther, he fell on the ground and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
And he said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible to you; remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what You will.”
I like people and I don't like people, is that unusual? My problem is that the Bible runs this same theme. God and Moses even have an argument over who's people Israel is when they are in the dessert and sinning, Moses says to God: they are your people and God says back to Moses: they are your people. Neither wanted these sinful people at that time. Jesus exclaimed more than once: "how much longer do I have to put up with you" God says that the "heart of man is evil" Jesus says “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders" all these things are common to all mankind. Like I have already stated a few times here, I am so tired of lies, lies, and more lies. Everybody lies, even to themselves. But I do have a huge number of friends that I do trust to a certain point. Some more than others.Can I ask a question ,,, do you not like people?
He was also fully human. Fully nature and fully spirit. He felt fear and doubt, but he knew why he had come, and submitted to what he had to do. That is the whole thing: Jesus Christ identified with human doubt and pain. He suffered all that humans suffer. He walked the walk and led from the front.
Almighty God knows why He has ordained what He has ordained.Oops ...
Surely you mean you see Jesus all through the OT (the rearranged jewishbscriptures which are contained in the Christian bibles)But it does not predate God or Jesus, Jesus is all through the Jewish Scriptures. Adam starts the sin and Jesus finishers the sin.
Why do you equate John with the Christ? John the Baptist foretold the coming of the Christ, and said that he was not worthy to unlace the sandal of Jesus. How can you equal the beheading of John the Baptist with the crucifixion of Jesus the Christ?John the Baptist had his head cut off.
Not very logical though?Almighty God knows why He has ordained what He has ordained.
John the Baptist had his head cut off.
..but G-d decided that Jesus would be ascended to heaven for an appointed time.
Meanwhile, He causes us to be believers and disbelievers, until the time he will return.
It is easy for G-d, and He is full of wisdom, and aware of what is in our hearts.
I have noticed a theme in the Suras, Allah likes to boast about himself a lot, just about every Sura if not every Sura. Just in the 21st Sura alone, the words for Allah are: Lord, He, We, Our, Him, Allah, Himself, I, My and Me. Allah speaking in 1st person and 3rd person here. And We was only suppose to be for the royal We. Well is Our the royal Our or Me the royal Me, or I the royal I, or Him the royal Him. These nouns and pronouns are used 135 times, unless I mess up counting, Allah says something about himself in 121 verses. That is more than 1 time in a verse.It is easy for G-d, and He is full of wisdom, and aware of what is in our hearts.
Doh...that is what I said....they still are waiting....the chosen people don't believe Christian interp....surely this is not new to you.No, from what I understand and even what Scripture states, the Jews were waiting for a Messiah which the OT Scriptures speak of coming. Yes, they would disagree that Jesus was that Messiah.
Me thinks wires got crossed here somewhere. Well as far as I understand both Jews and Christians are awaiting for the King (Messiah) to return. Both believing what is written in the Jewish 'rearranged' Scriptures. Tell me, how many of the Books are different, 39 OT in both versions, yes arranged in different order, but not in different words.Doh...that is what I said....they still are waiting....the chosen people don't believe Christian interp....surely this is not new to you.
Isaiah 53:1–7 (NASB95)Doh...that is what I said....they still are waiting....the chosen people don't believe Christian interp....surely this is not new to you.
This is straight from you Quran. God is not "full of Wisdom" He is wisdom. Wisdom if personified in the Proverbs. You don't have the slightest understanding of God. Neither do I nor does anyone. To say that something is "easy" for God is just foolishness, "God is not a man" that just puts Him in the category of a human. The only piece that is correct here is that God does know our hearts, that is what gets a person into heaven or hell, not what you do.but surely, you agree with what I said?
"It is easy for G-d, and He is full of wisdom, and aware of what is in our hearts.
Where do you read that?God is not "full of Wisdom" He is wisdom.
Idk where this is headed... this is your response to me saying Jews do not see Jesus as the one which.their texts referred?I know you know the text, it's in both versions. Can't wait for the reply. I could post so much more that Jesus says about the OT being fulfilled by Him, but I don't think that that is where you post was heading.