Hide and seek is fun!
First as I do not believe the second portion is true, I see no reason to attempt to 'prove' it. I believe there are many methods of connecting to G!d and don't believe G!d requires worship.So here is my challenge.
Without refering to scriptures or religious reference books at all prove that G-d exists and that your religion is the only correct form of worshipping G-d.
cyperpi said:I will tell you, that the proof of God exists. I have proof. Not just a belief. I can not give the proof though because it is not mine to give. I can give the witness or testimony of the interaction, and I can request more. I can share the logic, and my regurgitation of the history, but it is not possible for me to give the past as if it were the present. I submit that the proof is necessarily between the individual and God. This last month even, this last week even, just a few days ago... I sought and received undeniable proof by every means of the word 'proof': real, external, and internal, two-way, physical communication with an unconfined and willing God. I was not seeking proof, I was seeking his will with something. But it does prove yet again for me by every sense of the word that God is real, that God exists, and a small little bit of God's judgment and will. A small bit, but on the question of existance I would be an outright liar, or a hypocrite, if I ever say or claim that God does not exist. As a child I did not believe that God was here. Without evidence I could claim to be uncertain. But I know that he is, and I can not undo that now. I can no more remove the fact that God exists than I can eat breakfast tomorrow on the moon... nor do I want to. Neither do I personally want anyone to believe anything on my account... seek your own proof in the manner that you think works. I merely tell you it is worth the pursuit. The quest is good.
i assume nobody is claiming that any of this is *my* fault.farhan said:If the explosive power of BB was a fraction less, all the stuff would have been gone back into some knid of singularity under its own gravitation.
Last year I hired a couple of people directly from the street. No resumes, no interviews, no hand-picked relationships. I expect there will be problems of one type or another with individuals from the street, and I have been testing myself applying the concepts of Love, Faith, and Truth that I personally believe in. It is very educational... all manner of issues can crop up. One person was right off the side of the road with a sign asking for gas money or a job. The other was in a mission going door to door, which I was impressed with because they would confess their situation and ask for help, living jointly in a mission house supported entirely by the public and maintained by those staying there. But this person has felonies, knows the addiction of all manner of drugs, has dealed, lived richly, and lived on the street, etc... He has been clean of heroin and other illegal drugs for 18+ months for various reasons, and I would attribute that to finding God in jail. He had an outstanding warrant for a possession of paraphernalia, got picked up, and I bailed him out of jail last year. The district court let him off on fines based on his story of recovery. With me, he mostly drives around site to site with some expensive equipment, and other general labor, and this job does require drug and alcohol testing. I have seen the spirit helping this individual. For example all I had to do was think of an issue sometimes and it would surface in him without me saying anything.... and that I am in full agreement, we all have our own path. And it is precisely that that I ask for further details, in some hope that I might seek in some same manner as you.
I apologize for not replying, Dondi. That event was a little too current at the time. The next day I had prayed for guidance of his will, and I received some information. I prayed only within my mind and the answer came in the form of two phone calls from two strangers, perfectly timed as I had asked, and in a manner communicated to me before. It is still a matter of measurement statistics... but when it gets to be over some threshold it becomes really impressive.Sounds like you almost "saw" God at that rest stop.
99% of the planet believe in God.
But of that 99% how many are simply the product of cultural indoctrination ? This is the key. Its like saying the west is Christian and the middle east is Muslim, its true but its deeper truth is that mainstream religious concepts are without exception geopolitical baggage. This alone calls into question the integrity of these religions. 99% of the population may well believe in God. But perhaps you could rephrase it that only 1% of the population are not superstitious.
I'm still wondering how Tao claims to disprove that God exists. Surely then I might see the assumed error?!But of that 99% how many are simply the product of cultural indoctrination ? This is the key. Its like saying the west is Christian and the middle east is Muslim, its true but its deeper truth is that mainstream religious concepts are without exception geopolitical baggage. This alone calls into question the integrity of these religions. 99% of the population may well believe in God. But perhaps you could rephrase it that only 1% of the population are not superstitious.
Actually in this case it doesnt matter. Its a scientific proof. The only requirement is that our meager little minds can conceive of it. With unlimited time, space, and no limits on creation then all things would exist. Therefore it would apply equally to gods, demons, unicorns, and jabba the hut.
So if God exists then God exists. And by this series of assumptions then if God does not exist then God would also exist.