Corona virus vs religious tradition..

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  1. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    The roads to and in cities are empty. The environment in my memory has never been as clear it is now in Delhi. But India is a complex country, many influences work simultaneously. For example, today there was a large gathering of daily-wage workers in Mumbai from states like Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Police had to effect a baton charge to disperse them. Many of these people are Muslims and perhaps wanted to go home for Ramadan, but the rail service has been suspended. Moreover, Mumbai is the biggest hotspot for Corona virus. The states also do not want people to come back from Mumbai and add to their problems. Then getting food supplies during the allowed time also sometimes creates crowds. Governing India's 1.38 billion is not an easy job.

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  2. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Three weeks of lock-down

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    Indeed it isn't .. all we can do is pray.
    ..apart from all the other measures we are taking, of course.
     
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    In our Dayton area Baha'i community we had Feast recently by conference call. There are also virtual devotions over the computer in the area. It doesn't affect my life much. My wife and I were retired anyway, and I don't mind being at home all the time.
     
  5. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Good, but it has deeply affected economy and employment.
    Well, many of the Muslims in the sub-continent do not think anything else is necessary. They still congregate for prayers against common sense and instructions of the governments, and stone the medical teams. About 1/3 of the infected are members of the Tablighi Jamaat.
     
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  6. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro

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    I'm not sure if this was posted earlier or not, but the Chief Rabbi of Israel had declared a suspension of "kissing" the Western Wall, the Torah, siddurs, mezuzahs, plus a suspension of certain "life" events (weddings, bar/bas mitzvahs, etc.) We can do the "life" events, but they have to be done over the internet.

    True, there are those who refuse to abide by the restrictions, but they're usually ultra-/Orthodox. Unfortunately, those are the ones who end up getting sick and/or passing the virus onto the next victim/s.

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    We've got an utra-orthodox community in North London (the biggest in the UK) that's suffering disproportionate cases of the virus.

    It seems to me a number of factors at play, one is, apparently, the community does not watch TV nor listen to the radio. And, as you say, the utra-orthodox in all traditions resist their practices being curtailed. So ingrained is the idea of the prejudice of the outside world that I'm sure many see it as simply another way of the Gentile to stop them practicing their religion.

    But here the Charedi leaders have issued a 'rare' and 'stinging criticism' of those in breach of social distancing rules. Partly this is a response to media coverage of Lag B’Omer bonfires in the streets of leafy Stamford Hill, where it was obvious people were in 'flagrant breach' of lockdown rules, a situation they described as 'completely unacceptable'.
     
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    1500 Christian churches in California say they’ll open this weekend despite the restrictions in the state. In Chicago hundreds of southern baptist churches across the city will also open. The city said they’ll be fined. A prominent businessman here said he’d pay all their fines now and into the future.
     
  9. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    It should be OK if they wear protection and keep distance.
    My son's office opened today. May have spent a lot of time in going from Delhi to Gurugram (another state, Haryana, less than 20 km away but a traffic bottleneck). We will know when he returns.
    But I am worried, he will meet many people.

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  10. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro

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    Will that businessman be willing to pay for any/all funerals and/or all future medical bills related to the virus?

    I hope so!

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  11. wil

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    X= Number of people
    Y=Cubic feet of air
    Z= Duration of time inside

    The formula for infection is the smaller the Y the smaller X n Z A need to be.

    Of course this could be exasperated by heavy breathing, be it labor, gym workout, singing, yelling, coughing, sneezing.

    I think we can all be mindful of the factors and limit or eliminate time in danger xones.

    It still.aint us we should be worried about, but transmission to our loved ones and others.
     
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    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    I think that is secondary to the supremacy of religion. If people die in observance of their religion, then they go straight to heaven. Martyrs. :(
     
  13. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Yes that is a discussion point.

    But me thinks it is the supremecy of belief, eh?

    We know there are various religions...that believe different things.

    And that our levels of belief and commitment vary.

    I'd say the number of martyrs in the world are many when it comes to willingness but few when compared to the population. It is also certain sects the martyrs gravitate.
     
  14. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    Here is a case where 100 people who attended a church service on May 10 near Frankfurt, Germany, got infected. Attending religious services has been permitted since May 1, provided certain distancing rules are adhered to.

    https://www.rnd.de/panorama/schon-m...denz-steigend-7VP7UKYJS3LBBYUX2MIMFP2VQY.html

    (linked article is in German)

    Interestingly, amusingly, authorities seem to claim that these people did not get infected at the church service, but rather "later, at home". No acute cases from this incident yet, mercifully.

    Communal muslim prayers for the end of Ramadan have been called off, apparently.

    (Scratches head, goes back to brooding and lurking on this thread).
     
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