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Our early 21st Century world may be the best it ever gets. Perhaps with over population and climate change etc, it all goes downhill from now on?

While I understand your 'drift', perhaps we need to be more optimistic. We have to trust in G-d.
There has always been change, and our places of worship are still standing. :)

An Einstein quote: 'I know not with what weapons the Third World War will be conducted -- but the Fourth will be fought with sticks and stones.'

A distinct possibility, if not taken literally.
 
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lol, I've done that...and I've rolled with the punches...I prefer the latter.
Ha ha!

Yes. I suppose I meant it on a society level, not on a personal level. There is a difference?
 
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Perhaps the way the well trained Roman army was able to defeat numerically superior but undisciplined barbarian armies is an example? The whole is more than just the sum of it's parts?

Most individuals will not murder. But society needs a definite law against murder, to anticipate the worst?

Corona may be an example of requiring individuals to behave in a way that protects society?

So yes: I do think there is a distinction between the individual and the tribe.
 

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Lol, yeah they assign proxies people to be the designated murderers.
Correct now; correct 2000 yrs ago; correct 2000 yrs ahead, imo
 

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I recently found out that Wisconsin (where I live) is one of the six "hot spots" for the novel coronavirus, having a major upswing in cases after the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down Governor Evers' stay-at-home declaration.

I'm doing my d@mnedest to stay safe (not just for me, but also for the furred purrson plural that share my apartment.) I couldn't look them in the eye if I didn't make sure I was okay (they're less likely to be adopted due to their ages [they're "middle-aged", with Tovarish being closer to elderly].)

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There's a balance, I think, and the Serenity Prayer sums it up:
'God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.'

Nothing ever changes for the good without effort and sacrifice.
 

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Nothing ever changes for the good without effort and sacrifice.

I don't think you buy that. I mean, maybe if you count your chickens before they hatch you get upset about breaking eggs to make an omelette.

ie, yeah, but ya gotta stretch the sacrifice.

sometimes the thing sacrificed is done so because of enjoyment...
 

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We start on a one-month Unlock-1. 9 pm to 5 am, curfew, distancing regulations. Hot-spots, Containment areas, no relaxation.States can modify the regulations to their particular needs. But situation not good. 90,000 active cases, 5,164 deaths. We were lenient in the beginning.
Perhaps tomorrow I will get a cigarette. But Modi did a good thing. I would not take up smoking again. It has been more than two months and I have survived.
 
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I don't think you buy that.
Really?

"Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty… I have never in my life envied a human being who led an easy life. I have envied a great many people who led difficult lives and led them well." Theodore Roosevelt
 

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I was rather talking about what we make of life, rather than the gifts of nature which we should receive and acknowledge with gratitude, as a grace rather than an entitlement, while remembering nature can (and does) just as easily take away, and that a vast majority labour under hardship, and yet still find it in themselves to be thankful for what little they receive — a salutary lesson to the lucky us in the First World. Nature itself is amoral in that regard, good and bad are subjective and don't apply ...

It's the second part, although IO think 'envy' is somewhat severe. I'd paraphrase:
'I have never in my life admired a human being who led an easy life. I have admired a great many people who led difficult lives and led them well.'
 
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I suppose I am being defensive...lazy is me...always has been. Laziness is the true mother of inventiontion, the main reason we create tools is to make a task easier, and we make machines to do the task for us.

I am not the guy who would have stole away on a sailing ship to Australia a thousand years ago, but I am the guy that will stay in $400 /night hotel rooms, go on caribean cruises, and fly 20 hours on a luxurious jet to visit Australia on company expense.

Heck, I'd even do it again.
 

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Then shame ...

And no, LOL, laziness is not the true mother of invention. Laziness sits on its ass and waits for someone else to create tools. There's no inspiration in idleness.
 

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Latest stage in our tale of woe is an incomprehensible response to loosening the lockdown measures.

The Govt introduced a 5-stage system. 5 is high, 1 is low risk. We are at level 4, moving to level 3, so the same Govt introduces measures from levels 2 and 1! Our Government cannot even follow its own guidelines! Meanwhile the Govt scientific advisers, who have each day stood shoulder to shoulder with politicians misleading the public, are now speaking out and saying the Govt is lifting restrictions too fast, and we're not ready ...

... we're not ready because in March the Govt decided not to introduce test-and-trace, which is the foundation policy of every country that has successfully managed their own emergency. Now it says it has, and again we have politicians blagging on about how successful it will be, when a plethora of whistle-blowers are reporting the system is an utter shambles ...

Today there's much talk of a much-needed 'air bridge' to low-risk countries to get tourism moving and reboot the economy.

What's not mentioned is said low risk countries, who have opened up their airports and are introducing flights and tourism, have black-listed the UK, advising its citizens not to come here, and refusing to accept British flights on their home territory.
 

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Temples in Lord Krishna's birth place, Mathura, have opted to remain closed rather than cleaned with alcoholic sanitizers.

India Cases: 256,611 New 9,983; Active: 125,381 New 4,975; Recovered: 124,095 New 4,802; Deaths: 7,135 New: 206
 
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