there are two kinds of direction in discussion imo. There is the "I believe" and then there are the facts based on data and studies.I stated historically researched data regarding the art of prayer and what it has become.
I really have no interest in spending the time needed to prove my statement on prayer.
In the future, I'll be more careful when replying to a thread.there are two kinds of direction in discussion imo. There is the "I believe" and then there are the facts based on data and studies.
When we state the latter one should be ready to provide quotes, links, the QED. This saves running around in circles...like other forums.
I know what it means and I'm not going to reference in detail 61 years of life over everything I say. I provided enough info regarding my last replies. I'm not a book with a bibliography at the end.I think what's meant is that the response to categorical statements is going to be a request for backup sources?
This would be all threads here. We prefer you back up your statements....we encourage standard debate rules...we have fun and are loose with these requirements but try to reduce folks that come to troll.In the future, I'll be more careful when replying to a thread.
I'll be sure to state that anything I say from here on is strictly my opinion.This would be all threads here. We prefer you back up your statements....we encourage standard debate rules...we have fun and are loose with these requirements but try to reduce folks that come to troll.
I am sure all that participate in forums and discussion understand this is why we are here....and not there.
Agree.... Hence links to supporting arguments facilitates discussion.There's a lot of science woo out there. Not to say that energies and forces exist that science can't get a handle on -- but a person attributing science backing to 'spirit' forces is open to peer review?
A prayer that would work for myself and others on the LHP would need to be void of connection to anything considered a supreme being/god/absolute/nature. The only form of spiritual communication acceptable to the LHP is between oneself and one's Greater Self.Agree.... Hence links to supporting arguments facilitates discussion.
If your proof comes from the Twilight zone...we begin to understand what we are dealing with.
@'Amir Alzzalam I would still appreciate a prayer YOU BELIEVE may be acceptable to you and all faiths.
This is my reason for the thread...
Do you need me to reference that today's praying is simple wish-making and rote recitations?Links to historically reviewed data would be suggested at this point.
That this Divine Utterance was first used by early Egyptians and an aspect of Heka (vibrational magic)?
You really expect me to prove and reference all of those points in some historical form?
It might well appear so, but sometimes things are other than they might appear.... that today's praying is simple wish-making and rote recitations?
I'd say for those so inclined, yes – but that is not all that prayer is, nor is that the only path of prayer.That it was once a process of concentrated visualization, combined with emotional and mental energy, properly grounded to the physical through proper vocalization?
Indeed.That Spoken Word (Divine Utterance) became what is known as prayer?
Where do you see the heart's place in this?... of invocation uniting our conscious awareness, through the Power of the Word and Force of Will ...
So, what about those who do not? Or perhaps you think that atheists are discordant music.There is capacity to share the silence with God, as appropriate for those who believe.
In Egyptian religion theWhere do you see the heart's place in this?