There is no justice if atheism is true

[RJM]

The title and question posed by the OP imply that Life would be a horrible, hedonistic mess of people running around murdering and raping because there is no Justice in an atheistic world. That, to me, is an attack on the non-religious.

And how is that not honest? It's what the OP is suggesting.

'There is no justice if atheism is true'

This is tiresome.

In this thread:

Why do you need Jesus? He saves you from what?

Jesus is the answer to all your problems. This video explains you from what does He save you and why.

www.interfaith.org

In response to this comment #284 by @muhammad_isa

@Ahanu posts #290:

It is in response to the above exchange that @Aupmanyav opens this new thread:
There is no justice if atheism is true
https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/20409/
with the OP post:

This I believe is the context of the OP?

 

[wil]

Yes telling others what they think or personal attacks are not appropriate, I am positive he is willing to edit and revise that for you.

But I see the entire conversation and where it just led in particular extremely valuable and telling.

Are some theists challenged by atheists and agnostic existing? (No justice?)

Or are some theists challenged when their untrue statement stated as fact are challenged for veracity?

 

[RJM]

Yes telling others what they think or personal attacks are not appropriate, I am positive he is willing to edit and revise that for you.

But I see the entire conversation and where it just led in particular extremely valuable and telling.

Are some theists challenged by atheists and agnostic existing? (No justice?)

Or are some theists challenged when their untrue statement stated as fact are challenged for veracity?

Fair enough. But why the need for repetition? Is everybody too stupid on this website to remember what has already been said?

 

[wil]

This is tiresome.

It is, we suggested where the salacious title would lead and were shot down, now it has come to pass ya wanna close it down!

 

[RJM]

It is, we suggested where the salacious title would lead and were shot down, now it has come to pass ya wanna close it down!

It was posted by an atheist

 

[RJM]

No theist has supported the title as it stands. People on this website aren't that shallow

 

[RJM]

Our group seeks to fulfill a mission of interfaith dialogue and exploration of others beliefs while being a place to discuss the intricacies of our own belief in a safe format.

https://www.interfaith.org/

 

[Namaste Jesus]

The title and question posed by the OP imply that Life would be a horrible, hedonistic mess of people running around murdering and raping because there is no Justice in an atheistic world. That, to me, is an attack on the non-religious.

Well, I don't read all that into the title of this thread, the originator of the sentiment was expressing his pov and has explained his position. I don't happen to agree with the sentiment myself and have so stated in the thread it was originally posted. From my pov, God's justice is there whether you believe in him or not. Others may disagree and that's fine. I'm not going to trash anyone's beliefs over it and keep insisting I'm right and your wrong. That only leads to hard feelings on both sides. At some point you just have to agree to disagree and accept that anti-religious statements on a faith based forum will not bode well.

 

['Amir Alzzalam]

Our group seeks to fulfill a mission of interfaith dialogue and exploration of others beliefs while being a place to discuss the intricacies of our own belief in a safe format.

https://www.interfaith.org/

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['Amir Alzzalam]

Well, I don't read all that into the title of this thread, the originator of the sentiment was expressing his pov and has explained his position. I don't happen to agree with the sentiment myself and have so stated in the thread it was originally posted. From my pov, God's justice is there whether you believe in him or not. Others may disagree and that's fine. I'm not going to trash anyone's beliefs over it and keep insisting I'm right and your wrong. That only leads to hard feelings on both sides. At some point you just have to agree to disagree and accept that anti-religious statements on a faith based forum will not bode well.

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[muhammad_isa]

The title and question posed by the OP imply that Life would be a horrible, hedonistic mess of people running around murdering and raping because there is no Justice in an atheistic world..

I can understand why such a title might seem provoking, but it has been explained what was meant by it several times..

This is tiresome.

Yes.

 

['Amir Alzzalam]

I can understand why such a title might seem provoking, but it has been explained what was meant by it several times..


Yes.

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[RJM]

Then why begin a thread that suggests one belief is superior to another?

The thread was posted by an atheist.

 

['Amir Alzzalam]

The thread was posted by an atheist.

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[RJM]

And that's your right to believe so, I on the other hand believe there is no spiritual judge (god) however, that Man inherently knows what is Good & Evil, that judgment/justice prevails because of our Conscience, not from a script.

And you have space and respect here to believe that

 

[Namaste Jesus]

And that's your right to believe so, I on the other hand believe there is no spiritual judge (god) however, that Man inherently knows what is Good & Evil, that judgment/justice prevails because of our Conscience, not from a script.

Excellent! See, we both calmly shared our opinion. We don't completely agree with one another, yet there is some common ground. Done, no need to bicker any further.

 

[RJM]

True but wasn't it in regards to something a theist implied?

Oh FFS!
Ok, I will repost this for the last time:

In this thread:

Why do you need Jesus? He saves you from what?

Jesus is the answer to all your problems. This video explains you from what does He save you and why.

www.interfaith.org

In response to this comment #284 by @muhammad_isa

@Ahanu posts #290:

It is in response to the above exchange that @Aupmanyav opens this new thread:
There is no justice if atheism is true
https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/20409/
with the OP post:

This I believe is the context of the OP?

 

['Amir Alzzalam]

Oh FFS!
Ok, I will repost this for the last time:

No, they are not "just stories".

Take Hitler, for example.
Your belief means that Hitler escaped answering for the suffering that he caused others,
by committing suicide.

The correct Christian belief, is that he will not escape judgement.
Divine justice is perfect, Holy.
You can ask @Thomas if you don't believe me.

Ahanu: Great point. There is no justice if atheism is true.

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[RJM]

I don't know why anyone is telling me that my take on this is wrong, apparently, it isn't. This thread's OP lifted the statement from a Theist who is implying that in an Atheistic world there is no Justice. That is simply BS.

The whole context is in relation to eventual justice aka: afterlife, karma, whatever? Are you able to accept that? As the original intention of the discussion, I mean?

 

['Amir Alzzalam]

The whole context is in relation to eventual justice aka: afterlife, karma, whatever? Are you able to accept that?

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