I know you would not mind Dor and I appreciate that we've had some good conversations in the past about this and other issues. My personal line is when someone tells me that because I do not believe exactly the way they do that I 'hate God' or 'hate Jesus' or 'don't love God/Christ/Jesus.' Those comments are beyond the pale, rude and hateful. That has happened to me on this forum and it makes me want to steer clear of certain posters, if not the whole Christianity forum altogether. Discussing controversial topics and clearly stating what you think to be true (or untrue) is one thing; making it personal and telling someone that they are 'unsaved' is another.