JW's, Sccientologists, Moonies.. when does a cult become a religion?

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  1. mee

    mee Interfaith Forums

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    Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
    Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings. matthew 24;45-47


    Jehovahs witnesses are fed from Jesus , because of their FAITHFULNESS, and it is always at the proper time , and Jesus is giving them ALL HIS BELONGINGS, so rather than being fed by men they are fed by Jesus . and it is really GOOD spiritual food. no manmade thoughts in sight.:)
     
  2. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    Didn't know you were slaves. I thought the term was faithful "servant"...
     
  3. mee

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    Jesus is their master, and in turn the faithful ones feed mee:) (domestic)and yes they are faithful that is why Jesus has blessed them with all his belongings especially in this time of the end .
     
  4. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    I try to do right by Jesus, but I am no SLAVE to anyone Mee. And any GOD that attempts to call me a slave, just lost a faithful man...
     
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    thats because you are thinking that the slave is an individual ,but the slave is a class of people not an individual .


    the slave was serving spiritual food back in the first century and according to Jesus would still be doing so when he arrived. (in 1914)

    not even Methuselah lived that long!—Genesis 5:27.


    yes there is a composite slave


    Their servitude is voluntary and stems from their love for the Master.



    For example, the Bible writers Paul, James, Peter, and Jude identified themselves as slaves of God and of Christ. (Titus 1:1; James 1:1; 2 Peter 1:1; Jude 1) Paul reminded the Thessalonian Christians that they had “turned to God from [their] idols to slave for a living and true God.” (1 Thessalonians 1:9)


    Christian slavery is based on love for God. When we come to know and love the true and living God, we are moved to serve him “with all [our] heart and all [our] soul.” (Deuteronomy 10:12, 13)
    A slave has been defined as “a person who is the legal property of another or others and is bound to absolute obedience.


    As a class that is what the slave class is like, they are obedient to God and christ because of LOVE


    but thinking about us ,Jesus said: “Whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister, and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.” (Matthew 20:26, 27) As Jesus’ followers, all of us are slaves.
     
  6. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    That sounds like a servant, not a "Slave". There is a huge difference. A servant usually chooses to be one, wherein a slave usually has no choice...

    Maybe we are arguing nuances here...
     
  7. mee

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    did anyone see that program on telly last night ,(here in England) about that cult, and the guy who claims to be the son of God ......... creepy , talk about twisting scripture . seemed to me they were all a bit strange , the program was called THE END OF THE WORLD CULT seems to me they need some accurate knowledge of the bible and what it REALLY teaches
     
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    Hey! Doubly weird. Not only do I agree with you, mee (which is a first [​IMG] ) but I also agreed with something the cult leader said (which was unsettling).

    This was when he described the sort of life we know - based around TV, cars and debt - was not really living. Real life was living in response to the call of God.

    Seems to me that he was the biggest victim of his own cult.
     
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    Don't be unsettled VC, I too can easily agree with this sentiment (but I didn't see the programme). It clearly isn't the only life to "know" and it is one that means nothing to me.

    s.
     
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    did you see the stare of those women looking at him , now that was creepy
     
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    How about a life entirely consisting of internet surfing? :p
     
  13. mee

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    I like to throw in some of the following ,



    (Ephesians 6:15) and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace.


    A nice walkies doing good things keeps me active .
     
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    Saltmeister The Dangerous Dinner

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    G'day, Virtual Bob. I actually thought you were real.:)

    Yeah, a good thing none of this is real. I walked over Virtual Cliff and . . . hey I'm still alive.
     
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    Maybe he is a reincarnation of Charles Taze Russell !!!
     
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    Its good to know that a bible student is just a bible student, and never ever claims to be the son of God . Charles Taze Russell was after the truth of the bible , and those who are after the truth of the bible have many blessings indeed . but those who claim to be what they are not ,have no blessings at all. i am glad to say that in this time that we live in NOW there is abundant knowledge and understanding about the bible ,and it came about because CHARLES TAZE RUSSELLwas after truth , not after self glory . one thing is for sure he never claimed to be the son of God because he knew from his study of the bible that Jesus was in heaven .

    and now because of the early bible students roving around the bible , abundant knowledge in line with bible prophecy and chronology is abundant indeed .


    And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant.”Daniel 12;4


    yes its all happening in this time of the end , but many many people are in complete darkness to the abundant knowledge.


    and the reason why they are in complete spiritual darkness is because they are held captive to people like the one on the telly the other night.


    yes the truth will set them free, but first there has to be a turning to Jehovah . psalm 83;18


    and as the bible tells us DRAW CLOSE TO GOD AND HE WILL DRAW CLOSE TO THEM.

    drawing close to men who claim to be the son of God ,will end in no true knowledge at all.


    “Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you.”—JAMES 4:8.
     
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    Mee,

    Whether you claim personal divinity or special insight on the divine is a moot point. Facts are Russell was by today's standards clinically certifiable as having a delusional personality. But he was industrious and compelling and built enough of a fan base among the uneducated to start a small movement. But it was Rutherford, who took over after Russell's death in 1916, who really got The Watchtower Inc. rolling. That he diverted a good deal of the funds to enjoy an extravagant lifestyle, and formed the secret hierarchies that still run the organisation clearly, to my mind leaves the JW's a typical cult.

    Tao
     
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    from small beginnings great things are happening and Jehovah uses whomever he pleases, but the leader of them all is Jesus christ and their ourthority is the bible .



    yes many things have happened to Gods people especially in this time of the end since 1914 ,when Jesus took up his kingship .


    yes the book of revelation is certainly an uncovering and revealing .
     
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    a cult has a living human leader ,but JW have Jesus christ as their leader , and yes Jesus is feeding a channel on the earth . matthew 24;45-47 and it is all good food and it is all beneficial to good spiritual health and those faithful ones spoken of in matthew 24;45-47 feed all of the other ones spoken of in John 10;16 and it is all from Jesus . yes Jesus has been GIVEN great ourthority Daniel 7;13-14:)
     

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