Bishadi,
no it didn't, the city was destroyed by God.....
face the fact
I provided a direct quote from the book of Jonah. It doesn't matter whether it was destroyed eventually or not. I will repost it here:
10. And God saw their deeds, that they had repented of their evil way, and the Lord relented concerning the evil that He had spoken to do to them, and He did not do it."
Jonah 3:10
and if you like to be equal then use it, versus the site your sect of judaism represents.
I'm not going to use a Christian translation to discuss Judaism, nor is the citation that I gave representative of my sect. Like I said, I don't belong to one, and I am quite opposed to many things Chabad does. However, it's one of the few half-decent Jewish translations available online and includes Rashi's commentary.
but the fact is... HE did do it!
nothing to debate
the city was destroyed and written that God himself did it.... and if your opinion suggest God is just so wishy washy well is shares the same of your opinion of the religion Judaism
Doesn't matter if G!d did or not. In the book of Jonah G!d says he wouldn't then because the people changed their ways. That does not then mean that G!d can never act differently for different reasons.
Maybe read a little from Israel, it seems there is a little religion called Judaism that has many different ideas than what you suggest
or simply, i have acknowledged what you are sharing but you failed to acknowledge that it is Jewish believers that are intending exactly what is being suggested and just because you don;t agree with the observance does not mean i am ignorance but quite the contrary; you are being so selfish as to deface your integrity
I already mentioned the Temple Institute to you, a few times, and I've already told you they're a minority, even within Orthodoxy. BB has told you much of the same. Why do you keep bringing them up?
but so far you will not admit that nineveh is gone and the story of Jonah is proven a failure to literature
That's because whether it's gone or not, the actions of the people saved it then. That's not an odd interpretation, it's taken directly from the words of the text.
OK... maybe TI is speaking for Judaism and you don't.
They're in the minority and even your wikipedia article states that. Most Jews don't agree with them, even most Orthodox Jews don't agree with them.
Maybe them being in Israel, talking with Jews, maybe even bump into a few on the street or at the head bangers wall; perhaps maybe reading what they have to say, has a little more relevance to prophecies than what you have to suggest.
Or, it doesn't and the majority of people regard them as slightly crazy and playing with fire, with the potential to cause huge problems in the ME should they take more concrete action.
have you ever wondered if you are wrong, about Judaism as a whole?
How do you understand Truth? I'm not interested in "the way things really are" because I see everything as colored by subjectivity. However, if we begin with the word Judaism and then look for a definition, we have to begin by seeing the way the word is used and what the word is identified with. In trying to understand a community, I look first to that community to define itself and then, if necessary, look at external views of the religion. In that way vocabulary gains meaning. That is not to say that there is some concrete meaning to any word. As I see it, we give words meaning in order to communicate effectively with each other. Additionally I reject supernaturalism so when I'm offering a perspective that includes it, it's because that's what's been asked for. I do not share those views.
I mean you have to admit the variations are huge, and there are folk in judasim that do not believe as you do, either...
Again, I haven't stated my own beliefs which differ from the mainstream. I have stated the majority view. You have provided nothing to the contrary.
try being a little more aware of what is going on in the real world
Try being a little more open about your own ignorance regarding Judaism. I'm quite aware of what is going on in the real world, thank you very much.
fact is I shared information and you didn't like it
No, you provided your own interpretation and I refuted it.
again you are not the rabbi nor the representative of Judaism.... and when you cannot see items as simple as the Jonah issue as being a literary contradiction, then your ability of being honest is questioned.
That is how you see it, not me, nor does it seem to be an issue for anyone else in this thread. I know a lot more about Judaism than you do. Your posts reveal that you know a very minimal amount about Judaism and are easily taken in by media sensationalism.
i suggested i had read for hours based on this discussion and you try and tell me how i am reading it and that I am not using your methology of reading the material...
I told you that you need to read it in the context of Judaism if you want to understand the Jewish perspective. If you're not interested in the Jewish perspective that's fine, but then your question about the goal of the Jewish religion doesn't seem worth asking.
so if you wish to have a battle of wits, then try me but quit poking the lion as if i am anything less than you.....
be honest and we can articulate but if you cannot be equal, on solid ground, then go jump in a lake
I never said you're less than me. I said you're ignorant of Judaism, which you are. If you want to be on solid ground with me, find some solid ground first instead of jumping from one spot to the next as the ground shifts beneath you and you learn that what you've presented -- one example is the wikipedia article -- supports me and not you.
i say the purpose of Judaism; the ultimate goal of the community known as Israel is to build the temple mount for the messiah
I disagree and you've yet to provide a shred of evidence for this.
point is some of judaism are not like you
I've never denied that. In fact I've agreed with you about that repeatedly.
-- Dauer
