Burn the Qu'ran day?

Discussion in 'Abrahamic Religions' started by 17th Angel, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    Late breaking news today, Jones has called off the book burning and in exchange the New York Mosque near ground zero will be moved. Wow, if they pull this off it seems a great step forward.

    We'll see...
     
  2. juantoo3

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    Yep, I just caught that myself, although the same report has the local Imam and the one in NY he's supposed to meet with denying that the NY mosque is gonna be moved or was any part of the deal.
     
  3. 17th Angel

    17th Angel לבעוט את התחת ולקחת שמות

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    I thought the golden rule was; You don't negotiate with muslims?

    Seriously though if this is agreed on, it's a decent victory :) Perhaps it was the plan alllllll along ;)
     
  4. bob x

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    The "reverend" Fred Phelps (yes, that one, of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka) has promised to simultaneously burn Qur'ans and American flags on Saturday. You might think this is a Jay Leno quip about where this is going, but no, of course this self-parody is real. I think Phelps is just jealous that he didn't think of this first, attention-whore that he is.
     
  5. 17th Angel

    17th Angel לבעוט את התחת ולקחת שמות

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    I think Bob from pill hill, that you will find they know each other rather well... I think if anything he is in cahoots.
     
  6. wil

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    NiceCupOfTea Pathetic earthlings

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    17th Angel לבעוט את התחת ולקחת שמות

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    Oh... My calculation/deduction of -the- faith of peace not reacting to this was in error? Unconceivable.. Whenever I look at pictures of these people... There is always a very primitive glint in their eyes.
     
  9. Dogbrain

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    Barbarian is as barbarian does. Civilized people understand civilized means.
     
  10. juantoo3

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    Should we ask Muslims if they are barbarians?

    Seems to me they believe themselves to be *very* civilized.

    I just think it is time they step up and act like it for a change.

    Peace with Israel would be a nice start.
     
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    The thing that keeps echoing in my mind is this:

    Civil rights are not civil and are not rights unless they apply as much to those you disagree with as they do to you.

    With the current liberal gov. promoting that suspension of civil rights is somehow American and "the right thing to do," ...keep that in mind when they take away your rights too (assuming you are American).
     
  12. juantoo3

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    So Muslims are inferior people to you?
     
  13. path_of_one

    path_of_one Embracing the Mystery

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    As FYI for those interested, a friend of mine started a mini-movement to donate money to Doctors Without Borders tomorrow, earmarked for Pakistan, in Terry Jones' name. You can schedule a donation through DWB and send Terry a nice card with your personalized message. So far, he's getting a bit over 300 honorary donations to a Muslim country in his name. Cards are forwarded to his church's main email address (info@doveworld.org). As further FYI, this is on Facebook under "Compassion is Stronger than Hate."

    I don't usually share or promote stuff, but thought this was such a great idea to turn all this publicity into something actually helpful, especially given Pakistan's great need during this flood. Hope it's OK- tried to check with Brian but no response, and as the event is tomorrow, time is limited.

    Even if Terry fails to burn Qurans, it is a way to reach out and show him that his attention-whoring and hatred will not necessarily inspire anti-Muslim sentiments.

    Hurrah for positive ways to combat idiocy and bigotry.
     
  14. 17th Angel

    17th Angel לבעוט את התחת ולקחת שמות

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    Is it wrong to see others as inferior? Afterall, isn't humanity many groups of different types of people, equality is but an illusion, there is always something some can do better than others, or on the other foot something others do worse than another.... so shouldn't it follow that some -have- to be inferior to others?

    So if Dogbrain can with honesty see a weakness in comparison of one set of people (muslims here in this instance) to his people? And isn't afraid to recognise it, is that truly wrong or just an observation?


    in·fe·ri·or   [in-feer-ee-er]
    –adjective
    1.
    lower in station, rank, degree, or grade (often fol. by to ): a rank inferior to colonel.
    2.
    lower in place or position; closer to the bottom or base: descending into the inferior regions of the earth.
    3.
    of comparatively low grade; poor in quality; substandard: an inferior product.
    4.
    less important, valuable, or worthy: B+ bonds are inferior to AAA bonds.
    5.
    acting or performing in a way that is comparatively poor or mediocre: an inferior observer of human nature.
     
  15. juantoo3

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    Yes. When that view extends across a people or a culture it is called prejudice.
     
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    What I want to know is "Where are all the moderate voices of Islam?"

    The silence is deafening...as usual.

    Unless there are no moderate voices of Islam?

    Another opportunity is slipping by....
     
  17. 17th Angel

    17th Angel לבעוט את התחת ולקחת שמות

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    Why? :)


    Looking up that word, it is defined as, an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

    But if you have observed something to be so, why is it prejudice? There are different people.. And they ain't equal, and who knows if they ever will be.
     
  18. juantoo3

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    Angel!

    Look closely at what you just wrote.

    The Germans thought the same thing about the Jews, and that was enough justification for the holocaust.
     
  19. c0de

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    Moderate voices are:

    • in their offices earning their paychecks,
    • in the kitchen, cooking dinner,
    • taking and picking up their kids from school
    • etc. etc.
    That's what moderate voices do, i.e. lead normal uneventful lives.
    And in the off occasion, get blown to bits on their way to the store
    by a bomb planted by a fellow "muslim" or an American Hellfire missile.

    Then who was OBL tryin to impress with the fireworks?
     
  20. bob x

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    ????????????
    What are you talking about?
     

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