Thanks, it was wierd. I am on my own PC now which was a mistake before and am on my own personal time. I believe in freedom of religion and being a soldier in what you believe in because it forms who you are.johnp. said:Hello tommy.
I'm sorry to hear about your bit of bother.
I like you John and admire how you stand firm in your beliefs, you are like a freight train. Early on in this thread we did get stuck in the same ol' trinity loop but it seems like we snapped out of it.johnp. said:I see no reason for our respective views to interfer with a good relationship in our discussion. My doctrine deals with some very shocking revelations that I do not expect people to like...
OK, here's the scriptures coming out of one of my favorite Bibles, the 1901 ASV: Malachi 3:6 "For I, Jehovah, change not; therefore ye O sons of Jacob, are not consumed". This comes out of the last two chapters of the OT and doesn't show any sign that he is about to change. God is the Alpha and the Omega, no start and no beginning. We have a time line, He does not. The Bible teaches us that God is the loving creator of the universe. Notice in the first chapter of the Bible what we read. Gen: 1:26 "And God said, let us make man in our image...". The word us is used and proves God's Son Jesus was with Him from the beginning as his first creation.johnp. said:Today's God is not the same as the God of old. The God portrayed in scripture, the God of wrath has been replaced with Sweet Jesus..
This is beautiful and I too believe that ALL scripture is "God breathed" as well as it is written for us to read to confirm our faith that the Bible is not written by man, but breated from God to his Prophets. Nice job in this quote! Thanks.johnp. said:I believe all scripture is God breathed and is useful and I live my life by it.
Old King Solomon says it best. "As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all". He also said that the "dead can neither love nor hate" and that "there is no work nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave". Ecclesiastes. Psalm 146:4 says that when a man dies, "his thoughts do perish". Therefore if a soul is burning in a fiery hell, they do not know why they are burning, wouldn't this be true? When a flame is put out, it does not go anywhere, it is simply gone.johnp. said:Dead forever yes but concious.
Jesus said that "Lazarus our friend has gone to rest". The disciples thought that Jesus meant he was resting in sleep. Jesus said, "Lazarus had died". John 11:11-14. Jesus compared death to rest and sleep. Lazarus was neither in heaven or in a burning hell? Where did he go? He came back here to earth. A great sign of things to come in the last days during the resurrection. Peace and Love, tommy