New thought?

It’s too bad none of the mainline churches or the Roman Catholic and Protestant churches ever incorporated the best of modern theology that could have brought them into the 20th and now the 21st century.

The fundagelicals will continue to bite because they need the “certainty” that some people need. There is a group of “Neo-Cat” Catholics who have the same need, different flavor. They are reacting against the liberalization, liturgically and theologically, that took place in the Roman Catholic theology leading up to and after Vatican II and in Protestant theology even earlier.

But theologians of the ilk of Matthew Fox, Peter Kreeft, Edward Schillebeeckx, Bede Griffiths, Piet Schoonenberg, Henri de Lubac, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Bernhard Häring, Karl Rahner, Hans Küng, Dietrich Bonhöffer, Rudolf Bultmann, Ruolph Otto, Wolfhart Pannenberg, Paul Tillich, and John MacQuarrie (my shining light) wrote their heads and hearts out.. Virtually all of the Roman Catholic theologians who dared veer off course have been silenced.

Virtually all of these theologians pre-dated Bishop Spong. His theology is largely reliant on their thought and writings.The French would call him《un grand vulgarisateur》but that does not translate to “a great vulgeriser.” No, in French, it’s a compliment. It means a person like John Shelby Spong. What John Spong did was to take all that esoteric, dense, and written-by- theologians-for-theologians writing and translate it into common parlance for ordinary people. He did it very well. What a gift.

But here’s the bad news. The writings of all those modern theologians and the accesibility afforded by writers like Spong have had virtually no effect on the life of either the Roman Catholic, Episcopal, or Protestant churches. Their liturgies, bible studies and sermons continue to use the language, doctrine, and thinking of the 18th century and before. And they are all, some slowly, some lickety-split, dying.

The dilemma is that there are just enough “give-us-the-old-myth” congregants and priests/ministers that au-courant priests and ministers don’t dare challenge the two-century-old paradigm and risk losing their jobs. In fact, most seminaries don’t dig deep enough into actual systematic or scriptural theology to intrigue seminarians to think deeper. In fact, in my own denomination, few applicants go to seminary. They go through an at-home diocese-by-diocese do-it-yourself training program.

Meanwhile, major swaths of the Baby Boomers, about two-thirds of Generation X, and virtually all those in Generations Y, Z and Alpha are gone, lost to the real world and unwilling to prop up the myth any longer.

What is sad is that folks like us have no place to go. I believe most people need community. The Unitarians and some UCC folks are good on community and theology but have no idea of the need for liturgy. Human beings also need silence, with contemporary society doing all it can to keep us talking and running. The non-program Quakers and Zensters have the silence down, but that’s all. I read a piece of light research recently that suggested that many Millenials and post Millenials are attracted to very high-church (smells and bells) liturgies. I’ve checked that out with a couple of Millenials who said that they liked the transcendent atmosphere Anglo-Catholic liturgy creates . . . as long as they don’t listen to the words.

It is time for a new kind of community and a new kind of “worship.” New Age groups and attempted returns to ancient, primitive, mostly pantheistic or ancestor-worshipping cults are, to me, tiresome. And yet I yearn and I suspect I’m not alone.

(Discussion in ‘Christianity‘ started by wilFeb 20, 2022)

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Glimpses New Bahai Film

The Universal House of Justice has commissioned a feature film called Glimpses of a Hundred Years of Endeavour that reflects on the efforts and learning carried out by a burgeoning Baha’i community since the passing of Abdu’l-Baha in 1921, and it outlines the journey that has led to the community’s current efforts to contribute to the emergence of a world organized around the principle of the oneness of humanity.

Glimpses of a Hundred Years of Endeavour is available in Arabic, English, French, Persian, Russian, Spanish, and Swahili. You can watch or download the film here: www.bahai.org/glimpses

You can also watch the film here on the official YouTube channel for the Baha’i Faith: Glimpses of a Hundred Years of Endeavour

 

(Discussion in ‘Baha’i‘ started by Tone Bristow-StaggJan 28, 2022)

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Two types of intentions

I know of quite a few Christians who say that for example murder committed because of mental health illness is excused of gods punishment whereas those murderers who killed with full knowledge and ill intent suffer from their sins.

In this case its the intent that determines how God sees the sinner not the action itself regardless of mindset and/or age.

Why doesn’t the same logic apply to homosexuality (defining this by the bible only)?

The intent of sex between two men or women in a committed relationship is not of lust just as the intent of someone who murders another but have a mental health condition that caused it doesn’t harm by purposeful intent.

If one can get off because the intent wasn’t purposeful aggression why can’t the other get off because the intent isn’t lust?

I’m comparing homosexual actions and murder to make a point since it’s seen in the same regards according to scripture.

The intentions are not sinful in both cases, why not both be treated in the same regards?

 

 

(Discussion in ‘Belief and Spirituality‘ started by Unveiled artistJan 27, 2022)

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Akashic Records

Have you guys ever heard of the Akashic Records?

I came across when couple of days ago and found “them” interesting, I guess. Though, all the sites I came across speak of it saying that each person-their soul thoughts, perceptions, etc are kept in this record and we need to have some sort of vibrational energy to access and read (read?) the records. I read some on this site “Akashic Records: What are they? How do I access them? How do I read the Akashic Records?” by DestinationDeluxe (Don’t know if/when new members can post links).

Another weird definition included:

The Akashic records are a compendium of all human knowledge that can be accessed on the astral plane. According to Theosophist philosophy, the Akashic records don’t pass judgement or label actions as good or bad; rather, they simply state what has been. Knowledge of this “Book of Life” can influence our views of reality and serve as a tool of self-development.

Have you heard of such a thing before?
If you have (and believe in this) what is your take on it?

 

(Discussion in ‘Belief and Spirituality‘ started by Unveiled artist 24/01/2022)

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The Howling Gateway

Eawayl Madkhal مدخل العواء

The Howling Gateway

The Djinn require a suitable environment to materialize enabling their energies to change. Their bodies radiate energy from the infrared part of the light spectrum. Infrared radiation is restricted to the lower part of the atmosphere. Djinn can be witnessed only in a setting where extreme infra-red light/heat is predominant, like the desert at high noon or a controlled environment such as a ritual chamber flooded with extreme infra-red light.

The Howling Gateway replaces the traditional summoning Circle. The Sahir has no desire to bully, constrain, or admonish these spiritual creatures. As the Sahir works with aspects of their Self, the spiritual creatures are embraced as adherents of the Left Hand Path themselves. A Circle is no longer necessary for protection, the Eawayl Madkhal will act as a portal for the subjective universe of the Sahir to enter into objective reality.

**below is the draft outline for building the Eawayl Madkhal

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I Ching and Tarot

Over the years I have known quite a few down-to-earth, educated (often highly) people who are attracted to the I ching and to a lesser extent Tarot Cards.

Such things are often regarded as “just a bit of fun” but is there more to it? Any thoughts on this?

 

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Is Wicca pagan-lite?

The idea of nature-based religions has long interested me. At a time of searching, I made a brief investigation of Wicca. At the time, it was the only one that I had heard of.

It was, to be frank, pretty disappointing. I have zero interest in spells and am not overly fond of ritual. Furthermore, much of what I found online seemed to be aimed at teenage girls and young women (no disrespect intended).

I joined an attractive looking forum but found that many of the questions were of the “how do I tell my parents I am a witch?” variety.

So, is Wicca as the title suggests? Has it perhaps evolved into something rather picturesque that is for people not wanting to be bothered by a deeper approach? Or are there some Wiccans out there doing and hopefully writing some good stuff?

 

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